Reflections on “Engaging with Investors”
Carl Hagberg, Editor
Feb 3, 2025
Over the Past 30+ Years – And Advice for Effectively Engaging Now –
From Two Pioneers of Good Corporate Governance
When we announced the theme for this year’s Special Supplement to the
OPTIMIZER—our thirtieth edition—one of our advertisers noted that
“thirty years ago, the idea of ‘engaging with investors’ was virtually
unheard of.” He was right! Back then, activist investors—and
especially shareholder proponents—were often treated with outright
disdain by corporate officers. Many executives went out of their way
to make such investors feel unwelcome at annual general meetings
(AGMs) and “shut them down” as quickly as possible.
Two of the original pioneers of engaging with investors immediately
came to mind, starting with the inimitable Peggy Foran, who, when
serving on the Advisory Board for the NY Chapter of the Society of
Corporate Secretaries in the early 1990s, hosted quarterly meetings at
Pfizer’s headquarters. She invited both institutional and activist
investors to attend these meetings, participate in discussions, ask
questions, and mingle with other attendees. It was at one of these
events that we realized activist investors were not adversaries but
intelligent, reasonable, and, in fact, very nice people—just like us.
Peggy and her boss at the time, Terry Gallagher, were the first to
hold the title of “Corporate Governance Officers,” and Peggy went to
even greater lengths to engage effectively with institutional
investors—who, by the way, were steadily gaining more of the voting
power, year after year. As you’ll see from her recollections below, it
was not always an easy path.
Margaret “Peggy” Foran
Chief Corporate Governance Officer, Senior Vice President, and
Corporate Secretary, Prudential Financial
I cannot believe that in 2007, when I was the Chief Governance Officer
at Pfizer, famed attorney Marty Lipton (Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen &
Katz) called the Pfizer action of inviting their top 30 shareholders
to meet with the Board leaders ‘Governance Run Amok’ in a memo sent to
hundreds of his clients. That Pfizer shareholder meeting went
exceptionally well. More companies started meeting with their
shareholders, and they began to include directors in those meetings.
Engagement became a major focus and part of governance best practices.
Today, at Prudential, our board is actively involved in shareholder
engagement, and every year we speak with over the majority of our
large shareholders. The Board looks forward to this engagement, but in
addition to these meetings, we engage with all our shareholders
through yearly videos, plain-English proxy statements that answer
questions shareholders have asked, and highlight important issues in
blue boxes.
Our board members also attend meetings where our investors attend,
particularly CII meetings, and have one-on-one conversations with
investors. Our investors have given us positive feedback on this
practice, and our Board members feel this is a great way to hear,
firsthand, what is on our investors’ minds.”“In addition to
institutional investors, we communicate with registered shareholders
via plain-English documents, videos, user-friendly websites, and our
‘Tote-for-Vote’ program, which has been running for 12 years. This
program rewards shareholders with an environmentally friendly tote
bag—or a tree planted in their name—if they vote. This has been very
effective in increasing our registered vote and engaging more
shareholders.
Timothy
Smith
Senior Policy Advisor, ICCR
I appreciate the opportunity to add some personal reflections to the
theme ‘Effectively Engaging Your Shareholders.’ I have been involved
in engaging companies on corporate responsibility issues since 1971.
That year, a religious investor filed the first-ever shareholder
resolution, sponsored by the Episcopal Church, to General Motors on
apartheid in South Africa. That resolution opened up a half-century of
dialogues between investors and management on issues ranging from
human rights to governance.
I was one of the early staff members of the Interfaith Center on
Corporate Responsibility (ICCR) coordinating shareholder advocacy.
From 1971 to 2000, I worked there and continued focusing on
shareholder advocacy at Boston Trust Walden. I retired in 2022 but
returned as Senior Policy Advisor to continue this work.
Marty Lipton called the Pfizer action of inviting their top 30
shareholders to meet with the Board leaders ‘Governance Run Amok’ in a
memo sent to hundreds of his clients.
The Early Days of Engagement
In the 1970s, a new era emerged for both investors and companies when
institutions began to utilize their right to file shareholder
resolutions. There was no roadmap for management on how to respond as
these shareholders began using this novel approach. Corporate
Secretaries, General Counsels, and CEOs were often perplexed about how
to proceed, and many church officials were inexperienced in
petitioning business. Some saw resolutions as confrontational weapons,
while others viewed them as opportunities for discussion and
persuasion.
Today, the landscape has changed dramatically, with investors
advocating for a wide range of issues, from environmental concerns to
human rights and good governance. Shareholder activism has grown
significantly, and there are now many more companies embracing
sustainability and social responsibility. However, there is still a
wide range of reactions from management—some view advocacy as hostile
intervention, while others recognize the value of constructive
engagement.
The Key Elements of a Constructive Engagement
1.
Understand the Concern and the Investor
Who is raising the concern, and what is their track record?
2.
Is the Concern Broad or Specific?
Is it a common concern across many companies or specific to your firm
due to a controversy?
3.
Past Engagement Attempts
Has the investor tried to engage with your company previously but was
ignored?
4.
History of Productive Engagement
Does the investor have a history of reaching agreements with
companies, or are they engaging purely for ideological purposes?
5.
Has the Issue Been Addressed?
Is it something your company is already working on? If so, can you
inform the investor about your actions?
6.
Is There Middle Ground?
Is there a possibility of finding common ground or at least initiating
meaningful dialogue?
7.
Build Trust
Is it worth having a conversation to build mutual understanding and
trust?
This Advocacy is Making a Difference
Over the last five decades, shareholder resolutions and dialogues have
led to numerous improvements in corporate governance and company
behavior. Examples of better governance, expanded disclosure, and
modernized policies abound. Even if a resolution does not align
perfectly with your company’s needs, a significant vote in favor
(e.g., 20% or 40%) shows that a substantial portion of shareholders
believe the proposal has merit.
For instance, this year, several companies received resolutions asking
for expanded reporting on lobbying expenditures. Despite some
companies seeking to have the resolutions omitted through No-Action
letters to the SEC, many still reached out to engage in dialogue,
hoping to find common ground and avoid a repeat of the issue in the
following year.
Summary
Many companies now recognize the
importance of sustainability and good governance. Increasingly, they
understand that engaging constructively with their investors—large and
small—is the right course of action. Shareholder advocacy continues to
drive meaningful change in the corporate world, and those who fail to
engage risk missing out on valuable feedback that can help protect and
grow their business.
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